Sonisphere 2016

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Re: Sonisphere 2016

Postby OneZeroOneUK » Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:54 pm

Metalicbear's astonishing powers of deduction aside, I don't see how anyone can know what's been tried, who's been talked to or hasn't been or what the plans are, if any, for 2016.

Music festivals aren't exactly the most lucrative enterprise in the world and attract a lot of risk. They do serve as a kind of showcase of a promoter's abilities, owing to what appears to be a ballaching, backbreaking, Machine Head appeasing two week* logistical nightmare.

I would love to tread Knebworth's grounds again as much as everyone else, but when it happens it'd be great if it were good for us, good for Kili and sustainable (even if it is every 2-3 years). For that, I'll wait.

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Re: Sonisphere 2016

Postby welshAC_81 » Thu Jan 07, 2016 9:31 pm

hey Tom!

It's disappointing if it doesn't go ahead but personally it's more about knowing if its on or not more than a few months before. Hence me still holding back buying DL tickets...
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Re: Sonisphere 2016

Postby rockgeek » Thu Jan 07, 2016 10:50 pm

Kili small?

http://www.kilimanjarolive.co.uk/

However the DEAG website looks like it was a failed GCSE project

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Postby King_Walnut » Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:22 am

A bit like this forum design then.

I know it's not really relevant because this is a barren forum for a festival that doesn't exist but Jesus Christ this theme is terrible. Hideous.
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Re: Sonisphere 2016

Postby houston404 » Fri Jan 08, 2016 10:21 am

The Angry Koala wrote:According to Zac it's not definitely off as it stands, but not definitely on either. Sounds like there's still some work going on.

So I guess that's confirmation that the only thing to confirm at the moment is that there's nothing to confirm!


At this stage who can they announce that isn't "ruled out" (speculation of course) on their supposed limited budget that will convince people?

As much as I would like to go back to Knebworth for nostalgia's sake, I've consigned it to the history bin. I'm too busy now to wait around on the off chance it might happen, there are other festivals that can cater to my tastes that I know are going ahead so I can plan accordingly.

Shame really, just hope other festivals can learn from what soni did right and wrong and follow accordingly.
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Re: Sonisphere 2016

Postby The Angry Koala » Fri Jan 08, 2016 10:44 am

rockgeek wrote:Kili small?

http://www.kilimanjarolive.co.uk/

However the DEAG website looks like it was a failed GCSE project


2014 turnover figures:

Kililive £21million
DEAG £172.6 million
Livenation £6.87 billion

DEAG bought a 51% share in Kili for 4 million euros (£3 million).

Yes, it's small.

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Re: Sonisphere 2016

Postby rockgeek » Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:35 am

That was 2014 but now Kili are part of DEAG and believe you me there's a lot more to it, especially with 2015 figures looking even better.

So it's not really "small" in the traditional sense. Compared to the worlds largest promoter owned by one of the worlds largest companies, then yes, in comparison it is small..... but either way, it's not happening is it?

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Re: Sonisphere 2016

Postby The Angry Koala » Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:13 pm

Sorry, I thought we were talking comparative size as Kipper's original comment was that Kili may struggle to compete against LN/AEG in a straight fight to sign a big headliner for a festival, based on how much they could afford to pay.

Either way, it would be a major shock if it did happen this year.

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Re: Sonisphere 2016

Postby rockgeek » Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:27 pm

I just don't understand the radio silence - its doing more bad than good surely?

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Re: Sonisphere 2016

Postby metalicbear » Fri Jan 08, 2016 1:03 pm

houston404 wrote:
At this stage who can they announce that isn't "ruled out" (speculation of course) on their supposed limited budget that will convince people?
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Tool would be a pretty big deal and I doubt they would cost earth shattering amounts.
Pearl Jam; if the festivals they were in talks with have somehow managed to get them to tour Europe.
Metallica could possibly convinced to do an escape from the Studio tour.


Mega headliners -

AC/DC - Guns N' Roses - Muse

For all we know they might have a couple of headliners in the bag already.
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Postby kipper64 » Fri Jan 08, 2016 1:13 pm

They clearly don't though, otherwise they'd have a better idea if it's solidly on or off, no way cpuld they afford all 3 in the UK - where bands charge a lot more. I think SG said at a focus group in 2010 Muse were too big/cost too much and that was when AEG were still playing a part...doubt much has changed since then to make them more affordable.

Perhaps they've made offers to bands as they've supposedly done with acdc and are still waiting on a response but if they got one Id expect a one day big gig or two smaller headliners to compensate
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Re: Sonisphere 2016

Postby welshAC_81 » Fri Jan 08, 2016 4:39 pm

Wouldn't be sonisphere if it was a one day thing :(
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Re: Sonisphere 2016

Postby rockgeek » Fri Jan 08, 2016 4:44 pm

Even FR can't get away with announcing everything in March for an event in August anymore... I would say its probably best the forums were deleted. It's basically become a place for metalicbear to post stuff.

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Re: Sonisphere 2016

Postby OneZeroOneUK » Fri Jan 08, 2016 4:58 pm

I'd actually quite like the idea of a really strong one day festival that followed the alternating stage setup. Last one I went to was Ozzfest in 2001, and it was awesome (even if it was at the bizarrely echoey Milton Keynes Bowl).

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Re: Sonisphere 2016

Postby welshAC_81 » Fri Jan 08, 2016 7:40 pm

I'm sure it would be great, but it's a pain in the arse going on an 8 hour round trip, with no drinking, for one day. Camping is half the fun too.
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Re: Sonisphere 2016

Postby CherryInHove » Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:22 pm

Agreed. The major draw of a festival is getting four days away in a field without having to look after children. Going away for one day then means having to come back and look after children the next day when absolutely shattered!

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Re: Sonisphere 2016

Postby lolatheminxx » Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:51 pm

Did anyone read the reply made by the Soni Facebook page? Closest to confirming its off as we have gotten.
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Re: Sonisphere 2016

Postby welshAC_81 » Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:51 pm

Yeah I saw that. But then there's another comment from Zac saying it's not on or off yet. Do they communicate??
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Re: Sonisphere 2016

Postby lolatheminxx » Sat Jan 09, 2016 12:39 am

I have no idea at this point.
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Re: Sonisphere 2016

Postby lolatheminxx » Sat Jan 09, 2016 12:43 am

Although just to point out, we all know I love Soni... But if they announce now I can't attend. So to a more casual fan? Most have made other plans.
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Re: Sonisphere 2016

Postby metalicbear » Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:18 am

I don't think it's true that most have made plans. Based on my personal life, quite a few of my festival going friends don't bother sorting out plans for the summer until around Feb/March when they get a better idea of who's playing where. I know a lot of students who won't be bothering until their next student loan instalment goes through in the next week or so.

Probably in most cases, the only people who have booked festivals are those that fear an event is going to sell out ie Glastonbury and those that want VIP places at a festival.

I think because we are on forums and that we think that the world emulates the feelings of it, when it's not true at all.
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Re: Sonisphere 2016

Postby welshAC_81 » Sat Jan 09, 2016 10:31 am

you know there are actually people who are parents or who work, or both, who would need to sort stuff out a lot earlier though. Summer leave requests have to be put in before October the year before where I work, and as I can only afford to go to to one festival due to childcare and the fact that I don't earn much, I need as much time as possible to save. So ideally it's better for me personally to have a choice earlier rather than later or which to go to. Every year I wait to see what Soni is doing as i much prefer it over download. 2014 I didn't and bought RIP tickets and then luckily I had a free ticket to Soni. Last year I decided to wait again but then RIP had sold out (I can't camp in main camp due to back problems) so ended up with arena only and the same will have to do for this year if Soni doesn't go ahead. Yes I'm going but it's not the same.
Yes it's my own problem and I'm sure we would all be less bothered if we had no responsibilities and loads of cash, but not everyone is the same.
So no, not everyone is a student who is happy to wait until Feb or March time to plan what they are doing with their student loan.
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Re: Sonisphere 2016

Postby rockgeek » Sat Jan 09, 2016 3:37 pm

Don't be silly, Metalicbear said it's not true that most have made plans!

Obviously most would have made plans. I mean, pretty obviously.

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Re: Sonisphere 2016

Postby metalicbear » Sat Jan 09, 2016 5:39 pm

It's not obvious though is it.
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Re: Sonisphere 2016

Postby welshAC_81 » Sat Jan 09, 2016 6:06 pm

It is getting on a bit.
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