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Re: Stewards

Postby JAMEZ! » Sat Dec 12, 2009 1:50 pm

When i crowd surfed in A7X, they just helped me down, grabbed my arm and lead me to the side of the stage. Nothing violent, they were just doing their job, and i don't think they minded tbh, they expect it and know that its just a bit of fun. They get payed to do this gooseberry.
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Re: Stewards

Postby SH4RKEE » Sat Dec 12, 2009 2:21 pm

jake mcbirnie wrote:i found them wayy to voilent after i crowd surfed to bullet they pulled me over knocked me to the ground put me in one of those arm lock things that police do grabbed the back of my neck and pushed me to the exit at the side then throw me on the ground and im 15 :-x


thats extremely excessive in my opinion, we (SC-EMS) work with a security firm at an O2 Academy Venue and usually anyone that crowd surfs is HELPED down, asked if they need medical attention (at which point they are guided to us as we are Pit-Side) and if they don't they are escorted to the back of the venue in a polite and calm manner and informed that if they do it again they will be asked to leave the venue.
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Re: Stewards

Postby alexcore » Sat Dec 12, 2009 3:01 pm

I think sometimes they must just get bored of being civil and get quite angry at the number of people doing it clearly just for fun.
Though they were nice to me despite me standing up on the crowd (two massive guys picked me up vertically so my feet were at head level) then jumped over to them, they were nice and even made a joke of it.
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Re: Stewards

Postby SH4RKEE » Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:51 am

alexcore wrote:I think sometimes they must just get bored of being civil and get quite angry at the number of people doing it clearly just for fun.
Though they were nice to me despite me standing up on the crowd (two massive guys picked me up vertically so my feet were at head level) then jumped over to them, they were nice and even made a joke of it.


i don't see how they can be bored of being civil tbh :lol: they CHOSE to do that for a living
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Re: Stewards

Postby alexcore » Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:00 am

SH4RKEE wrote:
alexcore wrote:I think sometimes they must just get bored of being civil and get quite angry at the number of people doing it clearly just for fun.
Though they were nice to me despite me standing up on the crowd (two massive guys picked me up vertically so my feet were at head level) then jumped over to them, they were nice and even made a joke of it.


i don't see how they can be bored of being civil tbh :lol: they CHOSE to do that for a living


I don't wanna sound mean, but...could they do anything else? They're hardly gonna be lawyers/medics/pilots etc are they?
They're big. Being a bouncer or security might be all they can do?
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Re: Stewards

Postby SH4RKEE » Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:02 am

alexcore wrote:I don't wanna sound mean, but...could they do anything else? They're hardly gonna be lawyers/medics/pilots etc are they?
They're big. Being a bouncer or security might be all they can do?


i wonder if they ever had careers advice as youngsters ?
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Re: Stewards

Postby alexcore » Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:09 am

SH4RKEE wrote:
alexcore wrote:I don't wanna sound mean, but...could they do anything else? They're hardly gonna be lawyers/medics/pilots etc are they?
They're big. Being a bouncer or security might be all they can do?


i wonder if they ever had careers advice as youngsters ?


That's the thing, some people end up with shite education cos of our government and simply don't get opportunities...
Then again, I know a lot of people for whom being a bouncer is a second job, and do something else/completely different during the day.
But for festival security, those guys just work security don't they?
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Re: Stewards

Postby SH4RKEE » Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:16 am

alexcore wrote:
But for festival security, those guys just work security don't they?


probably not, i would imagine it is a bit like most firms of that nature - they have "bank-staff" they can call on for big events, you'll probably find that they ARE lawyers, Police, Shopping centre security, Builders, firemen etc that use it as a way of making a bit of extra cash (not that i speak from any experience :lol: )
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Re: Stewards

Postby alexcore » Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:18 am

SH4RKEE wrote:
alexcore wrote:
But for festival security, those guys just work security don't they?


probably not, i would imagine it is a bit like most firms of that nature - they have "bank-staff" they can call on for big events, you'll probably find that they ARE lawyers, Police, Shopping centre security, Builders, firemen etc that use it as a way of making a bit of extra cash (not that i speak from any experience :lol: )


Oh fair enough, I obviously don't know much about this kinda thing (being...errr...slight of build :lol:)
I just figured for the most part, this would be what these guys do?
Cos surely firemen would be spending days off resting/having fun? I guess if they need money though, every penny helps!
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Re: Stewards

Postby SH4RKEE » Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:27 am

alexcore wrote:
SH4RKEE wrote:
alexcore wrote:
But for festival security, those guys just work security don't they?


probably not, i would imagine it is a bit like most firms of that nature - they have "bank-staff" they can call on for big events, you'll probably find that they ARE lawyers, Police, Shopping centre security, Builders, firemen etc that use it as a way of making a bit of extra cash (not that i speak from any experience :lol: )


Oh fair enough, I obviously don't know much about this kinda thing (being...errr...slight of build :lol:)
I just figured for the most part, this would be what these guys do?
Cos surely firemen would be spending days off resting/having fun? I guess if they need money though, every penny helps!



your build has nothing to do with it, some of the best security i've seen has been done by the "little" guys, next time you go out have a look - you'll probably find that the bigger guys are there to look intimidating (don't get me wrong they CAN do their job very well as well) but the smaller guys who no-one thinks of as a threat will be the ones that are probably the "hardest" ones there.

As for the bank-staff comment, a lot of the security / private ambulance / events companies etc. employ a small number of full time staff but have a list of people that they can draft in for major events, it really does come down to "every penny counts" :lol:
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Re: Stewards

Postby alexcore » Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:29 am

SH4RKEE wrote:your build has nothing to do with it, some of the best security i've seen has been done by the "little" guys, next time you go out have a look - you'll probably find that the bigger guys are there to look intimidating (don't get me wrong they CAN do their job very well as well) but the smaller guys who no-one thinks of as a threat will be the ones that are probably the "hardest" ones there.


Yes, but they'll still be buff as, despite being small! I doubt I'd be much help pulling a crowd surfer out of the crowd unless they weighed less than 10 stone, nor would I be able to stop 99% of people trying to get up on stage :lol:

SH4RKEE wrote:As for the bank-staff comment, a lot of the security / private ambulance / events companies etc. employ a small number of full time staff but have a list of people that they can draft in for major events, it really does come down to "every penny counts" :lol:


Spose, it's like extras in films, they're not just failed actors ;)
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Re: Stewards

Postby SH4RKEE » Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:36 am

:lol: i get the feeling though that you would be one of the people trying to get onstage anyway :lol:
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