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Re: Security

Postby lucy351132 » Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:50 pm

NINtallica wrote:Think some of the security on the Bohemia tent need a pat on the back for not losing their rag with some of the idiot fans who kepts on hurling abuse at them when they couldnt get in the tent for Corey Talyors set.


I totally agree. I was just in the entrance to the tent when they closed off the barriers behind me and the poor security chap was getting some right stick from a complete cretin who wouldn't shut up about this one set being what he had paid the ticket price for. If that was the case, shouldn't he have got there earlier? We only made our way there 5 minutes before the due start time and we got in! The crowd was getting really angry and nearly pushed the barrier over at one point - that would've caused so many problems!

Well done to the guard and his Supervisor who did a great job under the circumstances. :clap:

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Re: Security

Postby beLIEveR » Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:04 pm

I can't fault security or the police for this in any way, because having security guards or police officers in the pit would obviously be ridiculous, but anecdotally there seemed to be a lot more theft in the pits than I've previously come across, particularly on the Saturn stage.

Maybe occasional searches on the exits might be an idea, if someone's got bulging pockets? It might inconvenience a few people (such as myself) who like to travel light and stuff things like a rain mac in our pockets, but it's the only way I can think of to deter pit theft, because you're never going to be able to police a pit itself.

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Re: Security

Postby davetkd666 » Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:12 pm

lucy351132 wrote:
NINtallica wrote:Think some of the security on the Bohemia tent need a pat on the back for not losing their rag with some of the idiot fans who kepts on hurling abuse at them when they couldnt get in the tent for Corey Talyors set.


I totally agree. I was just in the entrance to the tent when they closed off the barriers behind me and the poor security chap was getting some right stick from a complete cretin who wouldn't shut up about this one set being what he had paid the ticket price for. If that was the case, shouldn't he have got there earlier? We only made our way there 5 minutes before the due start time and we got in! The crowd was getting really angry and nearly pushed the barrier over at one point - that would've caused so many problems!

Well done to the guard and his Supervisor who did a great job under the circumstances. :clap:



Yeah we saw it too, guy by the bottom most entrance was gettin a gooseberry loada stick to which some stupid bint asked "why can't you just let us in?" Duuuuuuuuuuh?

We got lucky though and managed to see both Machine Head and corey (we thought we would be locked out.
But the fault goes with Soni on that one cos we all knew how this would go down.
He could easliy have played either the Jager or Jakson stage, there was plenty of room around there (although no security to be fair)

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Re: Security

Postby Skiba » Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:30 pm

There was this one guy at the entrance to Bohemia who searched people way too thoroughly. Most of the people just checked your bags, but this guy was grabbing everything in all of your pockets and it really slowed down getting into Bohemia. It just seemed really unneeded to be searched that much.
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Re: Security

Postby subculture hero » Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:36 pm

davetkd666 wrote:
Yep, this.

An officer had a chat with us by our tent asking where we got them.
He explained that they had been found on tents that had been slashed open and this was obviously a line of enquiry that they were persuing.
I feel like an idiot cos we are regulaly approached by "charity" workers at fests and gave this guy a couple of quid.
The police said that there are no charity workers pemitted into camp.


Oh wow. I was in two minds - part of me just thought he was trying to get booze money, but this is a lot more sinister! Good job (in the most selfish way possible) that we weren't sat by our own tent when he approached us!
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Re: Security

Postby Damage_Inc » Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:01 pm

Sonisphere's Security was very efficient. They confiscated 10 cans of beer off of me cos i had no ID.
I said too the guy at least you're doing you're jobs here :P

But i did notice the police patrols in the site were very well organised and helped keep the crowds under control and was an overall good experience.
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Re: Security

Postby mrjonny2 » Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:25 am

On the small main stage (saturn i think) security was just evil
i got punched in the face during a mosh so got crowd surfed out to be greeted by 3 security guards who bent both my arms back and then attempted to rip my wristbands off as they literally threw me out of the golden circle bit.
Then when i crowd surfed out of Limp Bizkit i was greeted by 2 security guards 1 of which then offered me water
that is how it should of been
Security should not attempt to break both your arms and kick you out of a festival for crowd surfing i have never been treated like that for any gig that i have been to

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Re: Security

Postby davetkd666 » Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:39 am

Ok I know it's something that goes on, but do any of you really have the right to criticise security for grabbing you before you fall and break your leg ( a mate of mine broke his leg bone after crowd surfing a gig with no barrier stewards) or worse AFTER you've just landed on the back of about a dozen peoples necks, possibly kicked a couple em the face ad potentially risked strangling someone with a wallet chain (which HAS happened)???????
Point being the potentiial risks to surfers are far less than that of the people on the ground.
Those guys have little time to coordinate with another team member how best to grab you and avoid injury to you and the people at the front who bear the brunt and still follow moving and handling protocols.

We had this problem a few years ago (and surfing went out of fashion a bit) where female crowd-surfers started spitting fumes at allegedly being groped by the people in the crowd expected to stop them falling.
Was generally mocked cos no one could figure out how you would have time to anticipate someoe landing on your head, figure out gendre, decide if they were a babe or a minger, move to grope and then support them over your head

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Re: Security

Postby sarahrox » Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:36 pm

Police were really down to earth & approachable, seemed to realise they were at a festival and that we were all mostly harmless.

Not that I care, cos it meant I didn't have to deposit my undies on a desk for all to see, but my bags weren't searched on entry. Other people were getting stopped but I just wandered through the middle in a vague kinda way & next thing I knew I was in the campsite lol! It's all good, means I know I can bring wine & vodka next year & get away with it! :D

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Re: Security

Postby rockgeek » Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:41 pm

I thought it was strange that no one checked bands out of the arena via A2 which meant you could walk behind main stage, by VIP and all that jazz but to get back into the arena, they checked you

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Re: Security

Postby neonpinkish » Tue Aug 04, 2009 4:32 pm

I gave the 'charity' man a fiver cos he scared me and I wanted him to go away :shock:

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Re: Security

Postby kazz » Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:55 pm

i think the security was really good.

apart fae the complete pratt who pushed the gate against zee's leg. he was a pillock!

all the coppers were really cool though. let us have some fun.
(unless it invloved gazebo's!!!)

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Re: Security

Postby d1899 » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:33 pm

thought the security/stewards at the barriers did a good job, as they were more approachable and friendlier than your usual 'move and i'll squash you' type. asking people if they were alright and helping people, instead of waiting to be asked was good.

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Re: Security

Postby Shewolfmegadeth » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:43 pm

VERY good, best security I have seen at any festival I have been to. xx
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Re: Security

Postby line-6 » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:47 pm

The guy on VIP enterance was cool, I said "can I take my cans in?" and he said "I ain't going to stop you", so I did.
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Re: Security

Postby skinnyeddy » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:53 pm

I thought security was great, they were friendly, relaxed and tbh I didn't notice them most of the time except when they were sorting stuff out i.e. putting out fires, doing the occasional sweep of the tents.

I didn't really see any 'charity' workers. I only saw a (tibetian?) monk going around on Thursday asking for donations for the homeless. I gave him a couple of quid and he gave me a free book :D He seemed pretty legit but frakk knows what happened to that book I can't find it anywhere :lol:

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Re: Security

Postby Sprite. » Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:01 am

Very impressed. I had just walked my girlfriend back from the loos on Sunday night and we came back to see alot of smoke billowing from near our tent :S. At this point I will mention that some people near us were giving the security abuse becuase they put out their bbq saying it was "unattended" when they were just sat in their tent awning, thus destroying their food. Before we left they were planning to make a big ass fire to show off and to piss off the security. Anyway, on returning to our tent as I said we saw smoke and then flames. This was just one tent from us. We started panicking and I was about to grab our 2L bottle of water I had ready for our little bbq/fire in a pan and start to save my tent. Then 2 people came running past and within 1 minute had the pile of loo roll, chairs and other crap put out. Very well done :) And after that no more fires were lit near me.

Also a comment about the police, very friendly and I feel a good job was done in the selection of officers to be sent as all were willing to have a laugh and to joke around.
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Re: Security

Postby kizandtango » Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:04 am

Louise wrote:I thought having the police around the site was a really good idea aswell. I personally didnt have any security issues with my own stuff, or hear of anyone else who had issues. Security was good.

Bag checking though getting into the arena, ooo that was slack. Wish I had brought my SLR with me now :lol:



It wouldnt have got through, They tried to stop me getting in with my Fuji Cam, which doesnt have a removable lense and only a 10x Zoom..

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Re: Security

Postby charl914 » Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:42 am

We brought in about 8 bags between us. The only ones searched were the ones with the porn mags sticking out. Coincidence?

Police = Very good. Stewards = Meh

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Re: Security

Postby kizandtango » Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:01 am

Forgot to say, I found it really amuzing they they tried to ban my camera, Stop me taking a 1litre bottle of water...But didnt ONCE question the bag of needles I had, one of which was a large fat addrenaline pen, as well as pills ! Bit backwards surely??

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Re: Security

Postby add » Wed Aug 05, 2009 4:42 am

didnt really have any problems with them...


found it weird that only once were my pockets searched... and he just took my word for what was in them when he patted them then asked to see my cigs before letting me in...


my family had a little trouble with the police though... moving my bros stuff from one tent to another, was ok in the end though just had to talk their way out of it

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Re: Security

Postby pyrateprincess » Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:09 am

i was quite bemused by the whole thing of having bags checked etc

we arrived on the friday and were carrying our tent chairs and bags through aswell as a cooler and no one stopped us or searched us, same with the second load we did(by this point we hired a wheelbarrow!-ingenious idea!) yet i saw a lad have his wallet searched whereas we were looked at and waved through.

my bag was searched twice in three days when entering the arena and the teams were very inconsistent in what was allowed in and what wasnt. Coming out on the saturday night i noticed a woman coming in with a coke bottle and she was told she wasnt allowed to take it in, same with another woman who had a bottle of water with her. I at this point had a bottle of 7up on me and left it in my tent thinking i wouldnt get it in the arena. Yet sunday they were letting EVERYTHING in! and considering there was a surge of day tickets hardly anyone was searched, they were more concerned with not letting people in with drinks and making them stand at the side and drink them before they came into the arena.

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Re: Security

Postby maxbabe200303 » Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:33 am

I did the VIP experience, and came seperately from a friend who was driving i - was on a coach. He had a word with security who let him drive back down through the artists area to pick me up from the main gate so i didnt have to do the mile long walk....It was rather quiet around the main gate at this point though so i wouldnt expect the same treatment every year!

Security was very inconsistant around VIP, one girl tried stopping me walking from the bottom entrance into the main vip entrance when a million other people were walking past her -as- we were talking to her. Needless to say i laughed at her and carried on - she looked very confused and obviously needed more instruction on crowd control.

Cops on VIP main entrance were very sociable - even got my picture taken with one at one point. However i was disappointed to hear they had been patrolling main camp but not VIP to say most of the thefts were reported in VIP camp. More police in VIP next year please?

Security into the arena were sociable but crap - very inconsistant. Some were checking bands, some werent bothered. There were plenty of people walking in and out of main arena to VIP without VIP wristbands.

Also when the toilet queue got bad in VIP hospitality i took it upon myself to try the artist area toilets - my band wasnt checked and i got in and out with hinderance.

Someone had abandoned their teepee and gone home by sunday night so me and three other guys gate crashed it and got mashed in there. Thanks dudes!

Also thanks to Pete and Ben who got us Monster camp wristbands! We had a monster night! Sorry we didnt get to meet up with you again after Metallica! I still want to see that film you recommended 'mega shark and monster octopus' LOL! Ill mail you!

Wicked weekend in all. Just hope they up the anti in VIP next year!

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Re: Security

Postby Hodgieoreoh » Wed Aug 05, 2009 2:31 pm

"I might have to confiscate some weed and smoke it"

As said one of the policeman. Genius. :lol:
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Re: Security

Postby Nene » Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:57 pm

triaxis wrote:
Security in arena and between Bohemia and Campsites was ok, but I have two very serious issues with the security this morning

1. The MAN security teams were going around at 10 this morning telling campers that they had to be out by 11 or 'as soon as possible'. They started knocking on peoples' tents at 10, shaking tents that were on their own, and just generally being very unwelcome. Some were driving their buggies at ridiculous speed across the site as well when there was no need

2. On our way out, Lucy and I saw a sole Diamond Events security dude taking a tent down with a KNIFE by slashing the fabric to remove the poles. Next thing I see is the tent owner (who had probably been for a leak or munch or to take stuff to his car) come back to find his tent on the floor in a pile. I'd have been fuming if that was my tent and it was completely contra the spirit of the festival, which up until that point was very laid back and easy...but I have to ask - what was the security dude doing with a knife!?


This.
We wanted to pack up as late as possible as our train wasn't till late, and got told 12 was the latest to be out so started packing up about 10. We then overheard them telling the group next to us that they had to be out by 11 at the latest or they would be picked up and kicked out whether they had packed up their things or not.

They were driving incredibly fast, over tents, over all piles of peoples things, hopefully this was just rubbish but it could have been peoples stuff.

They were coming round and slashing tents, jumping on them, totally destroying everything around when people may have still been packing up and just gone for a piss.

Wasn't impressed at all by that, really ruined the mood of the Monday morning, and was a bit worrying really.

Other than that, the security all weekend seemed great.
The police presence was fantastic, saw 100s of them walking about at the weekend keeping an eye on things.
We had a couple come up for a chat while Metallica were on, as I think we were the only people not seeing Metallica in the whole campsite and were being drunk and loud, but they were cool, just stood and had a chat.
Two people wandered back near us and were looking a bit shifty around a tent, and one of them ran off and made sure it was their own tent and weren't stealing things while the site was empty.
Couldn't fault the police at all. :handgestures-thumbupleft:

A group near us set up a fire and were burning chairs about 5am Sunday morning, and within about 2 mins there was some stuards over there putting it out (was with the peoples beer though :S) but yeah they were over and got it out right away, very efficient.

Over all, very very good, just the Monday morning antics that let it down for us.
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