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Re: Security

Postby The_Impostor » Mon Aug 03, 2009 4:28 pm

Seemed good generally but going in via the VIP/Guest entrance I never came across any searches or sniffer dogs etc so if I wanted I could have taken anything with me I wanted.
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Postby triaxis » Mon Aug 03, 2009 4:30 pm

Police presence was awesome - we had three coppers walk through our camp to check on us and they stopped for a chat as well

Security in arena and between Bohemia and Campsites was ok, but I have two very serious issues with the security this morning

1. The MAN security teams were going around at 10 this morning telling campers that they had to be out by 11 or 'as soon as possible'. They started knocking on peoples' tents at 10, shaking tents that were on their own, and just generally being very unwelcome. Some were driving their buggies at ridiculous speed across the site as well when there was no need

2. On our way out, Lucy and I saw a sole Diamond Events security dude taking a tent down with a KNIFE by slashing the fabric to remove the poles. Next thing I see is the tent owner (who had probably been for a leak or munch or to take stuff to his car) come back to find his tent on the floor in a pile. I'd have been fuming if that was my tent and it was completely contra the spirit of the festival, which up until that point was very laid back and easy...but I have to ask - what was the security dude doing with a knife!?
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Re: Security

Postby metalicbear » Mon Aug 03, 2009 4:30 pm

Once again, spot on, can't find any faults
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Re: Security

Postby subculture hero » Mon Aug 03, 2009 4:52 pm

Bag-checking was pretty bad - got asked 'have you got glass?' on the way in, but no actual checks were done.

In complete contrast though, the arena staff seemed really over-zealous. My mate got told to empty out his pockets (which, considering he was wearing a leather jacket as well, was a lot of pockets - even the inside ones!) on two separate occasions when entering the arena.

Just before Metallica, I was having a slash up against a wall (alhough probably not strictly allowed, I thought it'd be something that would be expected at a festival, especially considering the queues for the toilets), and a steward came and stood next to me while I was pissing, and when I was finished said 'you do know there are toilets right there? Please use them in future.' It didn't even seem worth answering him - total joke.

There was one steward on the Bohemia entrance during Thunder/Wildhearts who seemed to be going out of his way to annoy people. I do understand that the stewards are probably only doing what they were told when the tent is full (as with Thunder), and they must take a lot of abuse, but in the transition between Thunder and Wildhearts, he wasn't letting people in even though people were coming in through all other entrances.

Bizarrely, I was only checked for wristbands when leaving the arena - never when going in. It seemed odd that I was wristband checked when leaving the arena after Metallica.

I thought having sniffer dogs in the Stevenage bus queue was a good measure though, and didn't take up too much time.
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Re: Security

Postby mark2807 » Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:04 pm

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Eh? We were doing that all the time...

It was mainly early bird area on saturday/sunday, other days I managed to get in fine...
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Re: Security

Postby AllFallD0wn » Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:39 pm

Police were great.
On the whole security were good.
Saw a few dick-heads around who thought they were above the law, and could shove people around, etc.

I know zee will be having strong words on this thread :lol:
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Re: Security

Postby davetkd666 » Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:43 pm

Ok there were a few seciruty issues.
My mate had money stolen from his wallet during Airborne, according to the police the were people targeting the stage and others were much worse.
The guy(s) who were working as "charity" workers givig out the stickers were though to be markers for thieves who had been raiding tets.

On the plus side, this info was given to us by Police (the 2nd one proactively) and we did pick up hints that were actively trying to put a stop to those pricks.
With undercover oficers and stuff.
Teh regular Police patrols were a very welcome and reassuring sight. They were also very approachable

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Re: Security

Postby subculture hero » Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:48 pm

davetkd666 wrote: The guy(s) who were working as "charity" workers givig out the stickers were though to be markers for thieves who had been raiding tets.


Could you explain this a bit more? We got approached by this guy, wasn't really sure what to make of him though.
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Re: Security

Postby ImmortallyInsane101 » Mon Aug 03, 2009 5:59 pm

After crowd surfing to the front at the end of black label and shouting "LAMB OF GOD" I didn't really appreciate having my arm bent up behind my back and told to "Calm the frakk down" by a security guard. But other than that really no problems, they were good.
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Re: Security

Postby AllFallD0wn » Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:00 pm

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davetkd666 wrote: The guy(s) who were working as "charity" workers givig out the stickers were though to be markers for thieves who had been raiding tets.


Could you explain this a bit more? We got approached by this guy, wasn't really sure what to make of him though.


i.e. They went around 'giving out stickers', checked out who looked to have money/valuables, told guys where the tent was, and the guys went and raided the tents.
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Re: Security

Postby candlewax » Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:04 pm

Security was pretty relaxed, didn't feel as if they were there which is good.
But the security at the Saturn Stage were dicks, one security guy was being really aggressive to some woman on a man's shoulders, telling her to get down or she's out. I didn't see the harm in being on shoulders.
Also when I crowd surfed out at the start of Avenged to go to Metallica, I got absolutely man handled and escorted to the side like I was being arrested, I was like wtf!?
But the guys on the Apollo stage were good, just politely showed me to the side. ( I was in the wave of crowd surfers when Rob Flynn ordered us to get surfin)

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Re: Security

Postby davetkd666 » Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:34 pm

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davetkd666 wrote: The guy(s) who were working as "charity" workers givig out the stickers were though to be markers for thieves who had been raiding tets.


Could you explain this a bit more? We got approached by this guy, wasn't really sure what to make of him though.


i.e. They went around 'giving out stickers', checked out who looked to have money/valuables, told guys where the tent was, and the guys went and raided the tents.


Yep, this.

An officer had a chat with us by our tent asking where we got them.
He explained that they had been found on tents that had been slashed open and this was obviously a line of enquiry that they were persuing.
I feel like an idiot cos we are regulaly approached by "charity" workers at fests and gave this guy a couple of quid.
The police said that there are no charity workers pemitted into camp.

Did anyone else see the guy being booted of camp tis morning (near the main gate) for selling dodgy tees???
He shat himself when the setwards started talking about prosecution and taking him to the police ... so the guy says " no your not, i'm taking YOU to the police, come on let go"
The steward then lost All composure, burst out laughing and said "What the frakk are gonna take me to them for??" To which all us onlookers started cheering

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Re: Security

Postby Missy » Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:41 pm

All the security guys and gals I seen all weekend were helpfull and friendly, was awesome to see so many police about- and friendly ones at that! Few came over and had a chat :D

There was one company (pretty sure it was different to the ones Id seen over the rest of the weekend) that were comming around waking people up this morning, shaking tents and taking them down if no one was around, seen a guy rip the poles out of a pop up tent, using a knife, which turned out to have an owner! Fair enough once we've all gone they have to get rid of the tents, but they could have been folded up and gave to charity and if they really didnt have time to do that then fine- but still they could have atleast waited till the fields were cleared! More importantly I was kinda worried to see some one that was there to protect us with a friggen knife! Also seen two guys being an idiot this morning driving round the campsite in a buggy like it was a rally car!

Other than that last hour this morning I was very happy with the security over all and did feel very safe through out the weekend :)
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Re: Security

Postby Trait » Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:48 pm

There was quite alot of people selling the fake tees, specially at the station on Friday when we arrived.

I thought the police were good, didn't bother us, seemed pretty easy, especially compared to the stewards. The gazebo incident springs to mind. When the gazeboers took the gazebo back (after they were sprayed with what looked like a fire extinguisher, don't know if it was) the police just stood back and seemed fine with it (wasn't illegal) whilst I say a steward run and tackle one of them to the ground with seems very unnecessary. The steward bloke was pretty hench as well...
Did hear one of police say 'Well, Metallica sounded good' which made me laugh :lol:

One thing I noticed is that the security when going to and from campsite was very inconsistent, sometimes they didn't care at all, sometimes they got you to empty pockets and checked the wristband in detail.
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Re: Security

Postby Jasonisback » Mon Aug 03, 2009 6:52 pm

Okay the fact my mate brought in a frakk of massive knife with him and it got in was pretty bad.at least metal detect or something. (he used it to cut meat - NEVER LEFT THE TENT)


apart from them driving around like pricks i cant falt it one bit
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Re: Security

Postby EvilFairy » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:21 pm

I thought security much better than other festi's I've been to. Good to see Police presence in campsite. Didn't see any trouble all weekend. And what a relief that there was not rioting and prats burning tents on Sunday night! :D

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Re: Security

Postby mark2807 » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:25 pm

The wristband checking needs to be a lot more thorough, I managed to get into the press/artist areas with just a VIP wristband
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Re: Security

Postby pyrateprincess » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:29 pm

security just seemed to disappear once metallica came on, a fight started right next to me-2 on 1 and no one was around, when i walked back to leave i mentioned it to one of the staff standing on the platform otherwise saw none.

was very good to have the police patrolling around though

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Re: Security

Postby corney91 » Mon Aug 03, 2009 7:34 pm

mark2807 wrote:The wristband checking needs to be a lot more thorough, I managed to get into the press/artist areas with just a VIP wristband

Plus noone knew what the over-18 band was - some of the officials thought it was like an access all areas band :lol:
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Re: Security

Postby hayden83 » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:10 pm

The police operation at Stevenage station was out of order. Being funnelled through a marquee so that every single individual, whether festival goer or not is inspected by dogs and when I casually walked through, being forced by an officer by him grabbing my arm and pulling me back in front of a dog, stating "come back here and do it my way." This is a rights violation and the ACPO police dog training and care manual even states "people may not be funnelled or individuals requested to change their direction in order to facilitate the dogs' deployment as this may constitute a search”

I was stopped and to my knowledge the dog did not act any differently towards me yet I was herded into a tent like a criminal for a thorough search to which they did not find anything. Because I was not carrying anything. The exact same thing happened to my friend and we don’t have a dodgy appearance or look like hippies who are usually / unfairly targeted.

I don’t usually make an issue about these things and I'm not anti-sniffer dogs but I don’t think it’s fair police can do whatever they want when it comes to sniffer dogs and expect people to accept it because they don’t know their rights.

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Re: Security

Postby Emmjay » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:12 pm

No problems with security, they seemed friendly and helpful. Only gripe was the fact they seemed to all vanish during Metallica, when a fight kicked off next to me and my other half that was quite brutal.
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Re: Security

Postby cuddles1 » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:23 pm

Security was all in all pretty good and a friendly bunch one of them used to work i our local gooseberry whole which i found amusing!
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Re: Security

Postby S_Exile » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:54 pm

Thought the whole thing was outstanding. Police in particular very good, full of banter and used a lot of "common sense".

In particular, I was pulled to one side in my car as I entered the car park, because "our camera has detected you have no insurance". I have only had the car about 10 days, and couldnt prove I was insured with documents as they hadnt arrived yet. I offered use my phone to show him my confirmation email, and got the response... "If you can fake that you deserve to get away with it... you seem like decent folk, have a good weekend but check your insurance when you get back home - otherwise you'll likely be stopped again". He never saw the email as I couldnt get a signal anyway!!!

Also good to see they had a sense of humour. A few campers near us were giving them some lighthearted stick and they laughed it off. Two of the officers ever took a seat under our gazebo to chat about general security and to have a bit of a laugh,.

Stewarding good in my experience.

All in all... a good thing, and no complaints from me.

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Re: Security

Postby Skiba » Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:10 pm

I got my picture taken with a drunk policeman, was quite funny. Another policeman came over and didn't look too happy though lol.
One of the security people was a rat-a-tat-tat, he forced me to down my drink when I don't like to down it and then said I was gooseberry. Then I saw him the next night and to prove him wrong I downed it much quicker, then his guard friend squirted me with his water cleanery thing. But other than that I was very pleased with security :D
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Re: Security

Postby metallica_girl » Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:43 pm

The poor guy in the tent next to me (from Wales - hiya if you're reading) had one too many on Saturday night and was lying outside his tent in just his shorts, as you do. It wasn't indecent - he was covered up where it mattered and security steamed down the path, grabbed him and really manhandled him into the tent. His arms were black and blue next morning - you could see clear fingerprints.

Also, why was there a sign saying no glass bottles in the arena, but I was made to throw my plastic, unopened bottle of Sprite away outside?

The majority of security were great, but there were one or two real turds who thought a hi-viz jacket gave them some kind of authority.

AND, to the muppets on the gate, if a packet of co-codamols clearly has BOOTS stamped all over it and P, which means it's an over-the-counter medicine, it's clearly not hard drugs. :roll:
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